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RSS Feed not accessible to Feed reader software due to "DDoS protection by Cloudflare"

Discussion in 'Suggestions, Feedback & Questions' started by uz3r, May 12, 2017.

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  1. uz3r

    uz3r Active Member

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    If you want to protect the site's feed please choose a method that let's users access it instead of one that makes the feature inaccessible like the current one.

    For the uninformed the Cloudflare "DDoS protection" is a JavaScript based product (only usable by programs that have JavaScript capabilities like browsers and web page crawlers) which makes the content it protects inaccessible to anything else - like feed reader programs that only download the RSS feed the site provide and then interpret it.

    The way to protect such services is by limiting the times a request can be made to something like 50 requests every 30 minutes and once the limit is exceeded banning the user IP address for some time like 1h the first time, 48h the second time it happens within 24h after the first ban and so on (let's not forget there are places that have many users accessing the net from the same IP address).
     
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    Nullz Mecho Network Owner Staff Member Super Admin

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    Thanks for the information we will pass it on to our server tech team.
     


  3. uz3r

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    Disable the RSS Feed == "Great Solution"

    P.S. Too bad that another great site have became useless :(
     


  4. MechoPirate

    MechoPirate Mecho Owner Staff Member Super Admin

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    hmmm not sure how the site has become useless??

    The RSS feed was an issue so it has been removed whilst it can be sorted out and investigated properly. but still you've made your opinion known i'll be sure to pass it onto the higher ups
     


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    The RSS Feed was working fine until someone decided it needed the Cloudflare "DDoS protection" which is incompatible with this type of content ...

    P.S. The site is became useless because I don't have the time to check the new content often and the only way to check it was the RSS feed because it let me quickly find only the new threads I might be interested in that ware published after my last visit and skip the rest when I had some free time (or at least remove the ones I'm not interested in and leave the rest for later). Now that it is no longer available I can't do that and as a result the site is no longer usable for me == useless ...
     


  6. MechoPirate

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    Well just to clarify @uz3r Cloudflare DDoS Protection is merely for that purpose, The type of website that we run and the fact we are quite popular results in attacks to our systems and it was either:
    A) create a firewall config that would block ip's if more than xx connections were made (which could result in posters and posting software being banned)
    B) Create an IP Route that would forward certain ips for mass connections and send those ips to the nullroute destination which again could result in those who are using posters or even those who are running multiple browsers as well as the Search Engine Bots that make mass connections for crawling several pages at once
    C) Run our own DDoS Protection system that would incorporate A & B but with less blocks as it would set a higher threshold and block all non standard traffic (RSS/Crawlers/Posters)
    D) Use an already established service that is linked to the sites backend so when the site does come under attack for protection is puts itself into Attack Mode and makes all connections have a few second wait on their splash page before the site will be accessible for upto 48 hours.

    Obviously i decided to go with D because it was already established, other forums/sites out there who offer similar content than what we do are able to run smoothly, i am looking into the RSS system now and trying to figure out how i can resolve this issue and think i can put up a CF Bypass just for RSS purposes and set the RSS to allow a stream from a secondary domain/subdomain that will not be fully protected i just need to weigh up the effects this could have on our systems as security is our main concern and we would rather not jeopardize our users personal data and information.

    I'll be working on this and hopefully able to get something in place by end the of the day Monday.
     


  7. uz3r

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    That's great news.
     
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